Kenny - 24 August 2011 09:10 PM

God I hate how the cock end that is Clive Tyldesley won’t stop banging on about the money Arsenal will get for going through, like it’s a make or break deal for them. They don’t need £25M, I’m sure they want to be in the CL for the chance of progression and glory not the cash.

Heh, it’s actually Peter Drury commentating, the GOAL BAFANA BAFANA bloke, who in my opinion is equally a cockend and obvious man utd fan as Tyldesley.

On topic: Arsenal really shouldn’t underestimate this. Udinese have been really suspectable to pace but Aresnal have been really impressive. Problem is, it highlights how shallow their squad is if they lose 2 or three players, i.e. good today, poor Saturday.

forzagiallorossi - 24 August 2011 09:26 PM

Kenny - 24 August 2011 09:10 PM

God I hate how the cock end that is Clive Tyldesley won’t stop banging on about the money Arsenal will get for going through, like it’s a make or break deal for them. They don’t need £25M, I’m sure they want to be in the CL for the chance of progression and glory not the cash.

Heh, it’s actually Peter Drury commentating, the GOAL BAFANA BAFANA bloke, who in my opinion is equally a cockend and obvious man utd fan as Tyldesley.

On topic: Arsenal really shouldn’t underestimate this. Udinese have been really suspectable to pace but Aresnal have been really impressive. Problem is, it highlights how shallow their squad is if they lose 2 or three players, i.e. good today, poor Saturday.

Shit, my bad. Both cock ends innit. And I agree, Aresnal have looked great tonight.

Well done arsenal. Hope they get their act together and the fans get back on side now.

The confidence we got from scoring made a huge difference and I thought we were superb in the second half.

Thank the fucking Lord for that!

It must have been a good game for the neutral coz it was mostly tense from my point of view.

At the risk of sounding patronising it is a great shame that Udinese won’t be in the groups coz they would put up a better show than some that are.

*wipes brow, looks forward to the draw tomorrow*

... and the world is a brighter place again.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Rosicky was MASSIVE in that second half. The Guardian MBM summed it up wonderfully :

That’s the end of a proud night for a young Arsenal side, and particularly for Arsene Wenger. On ITV, Peter Drury takes about the £25m victory, but this was about so much more than filthy money. Arsenal showed so much character here. Seasons have turned on less; equally, there have been brighter false dawns. Forget the future: for now all connected with Arsenal should revel in a fine victory against slick opposition in an excellent game of football. Thanks for your emails, night.

Juan Flo Evra The Cocu’s Nesta - 24 August 2011 09:55 PM

... and the world is a brighter place again.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Rosicky was MASSIVE in that second half. The Guardian MBM summed it up wonderfully :

That’s the end of a proud night for a young Arsenal side, and particularly for Arsene Wenger. On ITV, Peter Drury takes about the £25m victory, but this was about so much more than filthy money. Arsenal showed so much character here. Seasons have turned on less; equally, there have been brighter false dawns. Forget the future: for now all connected with Arsenal should revel in a fine victory against slick opposition in an excellent game of football. Thanks for your emails, night.

 

I’m imagining all the Arsenal forummers joined hands and dancing in the street reminiscent of the end of Fever Pitch

Well done to the Gunners.

Arsene Wenger must be so sick of being asked the same damn questions. I wouldn’t be too optimistic more than 1 player will come in though

JoeSnee - 24 August 2011 10:11 PM

Well done to the Gunners.

Arsene Wenger must be so sick of being asked the same damn questions. I wouldn’t be too optimistic more than 1 player will come in though

Well, if this begins the reemergence of one Thomas Rosicky, we just may be okey in the “playmaker” role between him and Jack. Need a defensive mid (not sure my main man’s quite up to it yet) and CB or left back stat, though.

DeathByFRIMPONG - 24 August 2011 10:15 PM

JoeSnee - 24 August 2011 10:11 PM

Well done to the Gunners.

Arsene Wenger must be so sick of being asked the same damn questions. I wouldn’t be too optimistic more than 1 player will come in though

Well, if this begins the reemergence of one Thomas Rosicky, we just may be okey in the “playmaker” role between him and Jack. Need a defensive mid (not sure my main man’s quite up to it yet) and CB or left back stat, though.

Rosicky will not make things okey, EVER

Thank.Fuck.For.That.

I was quite literally shitting a row of brick houses at half-time and then the pelanty, richard.

Masterful performances from Gervinho and Walcott, brilliant.

Tomas Rosicky was an inspired sub. Frimpong was playing really well, but we still looked vulnerable and song was playing poorly. Then rosicky came on in his new role as midfield enforcer/ball-ticker-overer. This allowed song to sit, and he was immense second half.

Wojciech Szczesny is quite frankly a walking god; just because he came through our youth ranks, he hasn’t been mentioned alongside the likes of de gea, courtois as the world’s top ‘keeping prospects, he should be. Quite how Jeff Stelling can sit there with a straight face and say he vindicated wenger’s faith etc. after slagging wenger off again for not signing a keeper at the start of this season is preposterous.

Yes, we will take our annual beating from man united like naughty school boys on sunday, yes we still need reinforcements, and yes the deeper problems at our club have not been addressed, but we needed that result so badly I nearly hurt my leg from thumping it in delight after Theo’s worldie.

What a wonderful night; triumph in times of adversity and strife don’t half feel great.

P.S That agyemang-badu is a lovely little player

Robin Van Persie’s Chocolate Leg - 24 August 2011 10:24 PM

Thank.Fuck.For.That.

I was quite literally shitting a row of brick houses at half-time and then the pelanty, richard.

Masterful performances from Gervinho and Walcott, brilliant.

Tomas Rosicky was an inspired sub. Frimpong was playing really well, but we still looked vulnerable and song was playing poorly. Then rosicky came on in his new role as midfield enforcer/ball-ticker-overer. This allowed song to sit, and he was immense second half.

Wojciech Szczesny is quite frankly a walking god; just because he came through our youth ranks, he hasn’t been mentioned alongside the likes of de gea, courtois as the world’s top ‘keeping prospects, he should be. Quite how Jeff Stelling can sit there with a straight face and say he vindicated wenger’s faith etc. after slagging wenger off again for not signing a keeper at the start of this season is preposterous.

Yes, we will take our annual beating from man united like naughty school boys on sunday, yes we still need reinforcements, and yes the deeper problems at our club have not been addressed, but we needed that result so badly I nearly hurt my leg from thumping it in delight after Theo’s worldie.

What a wonderful night; triumph in times of adversity and strife don’t half feel great.

P.S That agyemang-badu is a lovely little player

Because I’m in a great mood and don’t give a…...........

because I’ve more than a few tonight and in a release of tension,
andcoz I’m quite pleased with this I’ve nicked a post from another thread.
I will apologise at a later date

You all know the tune;

There may be trouble ahead,
But while there’s CL,
and Frimpong
and draws to attend
lets take the money and spend

The Rosicky sub made the difference I felt.

Plus how harsh was the penalty? Save of tve season already. Ramsey, I felt, should have one directly after as well.

Has anyone read the article on the FFT website about ‘What Wenger looks for in a player’

I’ve been trying to access it tonight but it keeps going to an outlook login page.

Taking my Spurs tinted glasses off for a minute, have to say that it was an excellent and gutsy second half display that fully deserved the win, under what must have been immense pressure. Pelanty was harsh I thought, although the save was fucking outstanding and was a big factor in the win. Bob Wilson maybe right saying that it papers the cracks somewhat, I mean, last season you were a fluffed Bendtner chance away from finally getting a result against your European nemesis in Barca, whereas this term, for 3 halves of football over two games, made pretty heavy weather of an Italian side that arguably have massively overachieved to get to where they were last night. But that aside, it will do a lot for morale in the camp, which after the last few weeks is going to be key for the coming campaign, especially when it comes to gaining new recruits, still having the lure of Champions League football is a big plus for any player looking to join. Well done Arsenal.

I feel dirty.

I love Barry Glendenning. This was him on the guardian’s daily transfer rumour round-up.

“Having shown up selected members of football writing’s finest for the know-nothing buffoons they are last night, Arsène Wenger will continue to go about the private business of strengthening his Arsenal squad ahead of the Champions League campaign quite a few two-faced hacks hoped his team wouldn’t qualify for, if only because it would make for a better story.

Despite having spent 15 years in England, Wenger still hasn’t learned or – one would hope – doesn’t care that the best way for football managers working in north London to get the press on side is to offer them garrulous cheeky-chappy soundbites while feeding them a steady drip-feed of information of questionable veracity. That way, you can spend money hand over fist (while simultaneously turning your nose up at signing Luis Suárez) only to see your team slump to extraordinary levels of goal-shy mediocrity without fear of media criticism of any kind.”

Robin Van Persie’s Chocolate Leg - 25 August 2011 11:09 AM

I love Barry Glendenning. This was him on the guardian’s daily transfer rumour round-up.

“Having shown up selected members of football writing’s finest for the know-nothing buffoons they are last night, Arsène Wenger will continue to go about the private business of strengthening his Arsenal squad ahead of the Champions League campaign quite a few two-faced hacks hoped his team wouldn’t qualify for, if only because it would make for a better story.

Despite having spent 15 years in England, Wenger still hasn’t learned or – one would hope – doesn’t care that the best way for football managers working in north London to get the press on side is to offer them garrulous cheeky-chappy soundbites while feeding them a steady drip-feed of information of questionable veracity. That way, you can spend money hand over fist (while simultaneously turning your nose up at signing Luis Suárez) only to see your team slump to extraordinary levels of goal-shy mediocrity without fear of media criticism of any kind.”

Sorry, but that is total bollocks. I’ll give you the sound-bite bit, but the rest…

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 11:42 AM

Robin Van Persie’s Chocolate Leg - 25 August 2011 11:09 AM

I love Barry Glendenning. This was him on the guardian’s daily transfer rumour round-up.

“Having shown up selected members of football writing’s finest for the know-nothing buffoons they are last night, Arsène Wenger will continue to go about the private business of strengthening his Arsenal squad ahead of the Champions League campaign quite a few two-faced hacks hoped his team wouldn’t qualify for, if only because it would make for a better story.

Despite having spent 15 years in England, Wenger still hasn’t learned or – one would hope – doesn’t care that the best way for football managers working in north London to get the press on side is to offer them garrulous cheeky-chappy soundbites while feeding them a steady drip-feed of information of questionable veracity. That way, you can spend money hand over fist (while simultaneously turning your nose up at signing Luis Suárez) only to see your team slump to extraordinary levels of goal-shy mediocrity without fear of media criticism of any kind.”

Sorry, but that is total bollocks. I’ll give you the sound-bite bit, but the rest…

Why is it bollocks? You didn’t score many goals last year and you were pretty mediocre. And no one in the media ever criticises ‘Arry. And you have spent quite a lot. How much was Defoe?

I heard it was Comolli who didn’t want Suarez, with the reason being he tends to drop deep and he would get in van der Vaart’s territory at Spurs.

That said, I do think Glendenning’s quote there is great.

How is it bollocks exactly my friend? Whether or not suarez was ‘Arry or Comolli(had he not already left by then, and was it not ‘Arry who said that about VdV?), Spurs went on an incredibly long run(can’t find the stats right now) of not scoring at home last season, yet because you had beaten Inter and Bale had played well in 3 games at the start of the season, pundits kept bleating on about your sensational attacking football, despite the fact it had been non-existent since, like, November

Dance Magic Dance - 25 August 2011 11:49 AM

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 11:42 AM

Robin Van Persie’s Chocolate Leg - 25 August 2011 11:09 AM

I love Barry Glendenning. This was him on the guardian’s daily transfer rumour round-up.

“Having shown up selected members of football writing’s finest for the know-nothing buffoons they are last night, Arsène Wenger will continue to go about the private business of strengthening his Arsenal squad ahead of the Champions League campaign quite a few two-faced hacks hoped his team wouldn’t qualify for, if only because it would make for a better story.

Despite having spent 15 years in England, Wenger still hasn’t learned or – one would hope – doesn’t care that the best way for football managers working in north London to get the press on side is to offer them garrulous cheeky-chappy soundbites while feeding them a steady drip-feed of information of questionable veracity. That way, you can spend money hand over fist (while simultaneously turning your nose up at signing Luis Suárez) only to see your team slump to extraordinary levels of goal-shy mediocrity without fear of media criticism of any kind.”

Sorry, but that is total bollocks. I’ll give you the sound-bite bit, but the rest…

Why is it bollocks? You didn’t score many goals last year and you were pretty mediocre. And no one in the media ever criticises ‘Arry. And you have spent quite a lot. How much was Defoe?

There’s no proof we were ever interested or turned down the chance to sign Suarez, Defoe was out for most of the season and although our other strikers were misfiring in the league, I seem to remember we finished a pretty decent 5th regardless of that and had a very respectable run in the Champions League, which wasn’t exactly mediocre, was it? I don’t think it’s fair to say ‘Arry doesn’t get any grief from the media, when above is an example of him being criticised in the media and there has been plenty of that since he’s been at Spurs, I’m in no way saying he doesn’t deflect it in interviews with the cheeky chappy soundbites, but that’s the way he handles the press, which is something we all have to live with, unfortunately. Defoe cost us what, £12m? But considering Pompey owed us a boat load of cash at the time, that was simply writing off debt, as was Crouch for £9m, and since we bought Crouch, our highest fee paid for anyone was van der Vaart for £8m, which was a steal. In fact, since then, we spent £3m on Pienaar and in this transfer window all we’ve spent is £1.5m on Souleymane Coulibaly, I don’t see how that is spending money hand over fist, when you compare the amount spent by Man City and Spurs in the season we finished 4th, it was ridiculous, City spent well over £100m, whereas we spent something like £30m, most of which was with Pompey who as mentioned, owed us a lot of money.

For the record, Commoli was sacked with Ramos, and was at Liverpool by the time they signed Suarez.

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 12:10 PM

For the record, Commoli was sacked with Ramos, and was at Liverpool by the time they signed Suarez.

“We kept looking at (Suarez) but people thought he couldn’t play up as a striker,” Redknapp said, adding that he had sent numerous scouts to watch the Uruguayan at Ajax.
“They said he’s like Rafa (van der Vaart) and you can’t have him and Rafa or you’d have two players who want to drop deep, so that was the problem.
“We were looking for someone to play up front with Rafa. People said he couldn’t do that, he drifts and comes deep.
“But he played up front on his own the other night (against Fulham) and he was fantastic.”

Either ‘Arry’s deflecting blame for a bad decision, or your scouting network in holland needs a serious revamp.

While we’re discussing the redknapp - when the hell is is court case for tax evasion due? It seems to keep being put off and tho it was due in July I can’t find anything about it. Reporting restrictions?

Robin Van Persie’s Chocolate Leg - 25 August 2011 12:13 PM

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 12:10 PM

For the record, Commoli was sacked with Ramos, and was at Liverpool by the time they signed Suarez.

“We kept looking at (Suarez) but people thought he couldn’t play up as a striker,” Redknapp said, adding that he had sent numerous scouts to watch the Uruguayan at Ajax.
“They said he’s like Rafa (van der Vaart) and you can’t have him and Rafa or you’d have two players who want to drop deep, so that was the problem.
“We were looking for someone to play up front with Rafa. People said he couldn’t do that, he drifts and comes deep.
“But he played up front on his own the other night (against Fulham) and he was fantastic.”

Either ‘Arry’s deflecting blame for a bad decision, or your scouting network in holland needs a serious revamp.

Fair enough… although the suggestion we have an actual scouting network is a bit laughable, I’m not sure it’s any more than Kevin Bond playing manager mode on FIFA 11.

As for ‘Arry’s court date, think he had a hearing, but it’s been adjourned to be heard in October some time iirc, although there is a chap on a Spurs forum I’m on that works for the solicitors he uses, who seems to think they are preparing for the worst, also another that claims the prosecution (ie the Revenue) want to make an example of him. To be fair I’m quite sceptical about the latter, but the former I’ve known for quite a few years and have met on match days and stuff, I’ve absolutely no reason to doubt him at all. So yeah, either way, it’s not looking too good for Redknapp with those points in mind, which is fair enough I suppose, you do the crime, you do the time.

]although there is a chap on a Spurs forum I’m on that works for the solicitors he uses, who seems to think they are preparing for the worst, also another that claims the prosecution (ie the Revenue) want to make an example of him

Oh dear, if that is true then the guy obviously doesn’t value his job high enough.  He has breached all types of regulations there by posting on a public forum.

I keep championing this player, but I seriously think Xherdan Shaqiri would be a revelation in the Premiership & at Arsenal. He’s built like a bulldog, bastard for a dribble, loves to shoot & a pervert for a through ball. Reports are saying he’s available for around €10m, so his value is right up Wenger’s street, plus he’s only 19 years old. He was a stand out performer in the U21 Euro’s along with Eriksen & Thiago. Great little replacement for Nasri & at an ideal price.

Much more realistic option than the likes of Kaka, Eden Hazard, etc.

For the record, Commoli was sacked with Ramos, and was at Liverpool by the time they signed Suarez.

Yeah, I got very confused with my last post.

LQuick - 25 August 2011 01:55 PM

]although there is a chap on a Spurs forum I’m on that works for the solicitors he uses, who seems to think they are preparing for the worst, also another that claims the prosecution (ie the Revenue) want to make an example of him

Oh dear, if that is true then the guy obviously doesn’t value his job high enough.  He has breached all types of regulations there by posting on a public forum.

Really? All the details of the case are in the public domain, I can’t see what regulations he’s breached by stating what his legal team may be preparing for.

LQuick - 25 August 2011 01:55 PM

]although there is a chap on a Spurs forum I’m on that works for the solicitors he uses, who seems to think they are preparing for the worst, also another that claims the prosecution (ie the Revenue) want to make an example of him

Oh dear, if that is true then the guy obviously doesn’t value his job high enough.  He has breached all types of regulations there by posting on a public forum.

This. Very much this.

Although the guy could be a solicitor with the amount of bullshit he’s obviously giving out.

Jonny Gabriel Ngo Baheng - 25 August 2011 02:27 PM

LQuick - 25 August 2011 01:55 PM

]although there is a chap on a Spurs forum I’m on that works for the solicitors he uses, who seems to think they are preparing for the worst, also another that claims the prosecution (ie the Revenue) want to make an example of him

Oh dear, if that is true then the guy obviously doesn’t value his job high enough.  He has breached all types of regulations there by posting on a public forum.

This. Very much this.

Although the guy could be a solicitor with the amount of bullshit he’s obviously giving out.

He’s a paralegal, but like I said, I’ve not got much reason to doubt what he has said/written, which to be fair was little more than what I wrote.

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 02:33 PM

Jonny Gabriel Ngo Baheng - 25 August 2011 02:27 PM

LQuick - 25 August 2011 01:55 PM

]although there is a chap on a Spurs forum I’m on that works for the solicitors he uses, who seems to think they are preparing for the worst, also another that claims the prosecution (ie the Revenue) want to make an example of him

Oh dear, if that is true then the guy obviously doesn’t value his job high enough. He has breached all types of regulations there by posting on a public forum.

This. Very much this.

Although the guy could be a solicitor with the amount of bullshit he’s obviously giving out.

He’s a paralegal, but like I said, I’ve not got much reason to doubt what he has said/written, which to be fair was little more than what I wrote.

Client confidentiality has almost certainly been breached. why would ‘arry want the world to know his legal team are bracing themselves for the worst.

LQuick - 25 August 2011 02:39 PM

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 02:33 PM

Jonny Gabriel Ngo Baheng - 25 August 2011 02:27 PM

LQuick - 25 August 2011 01:55 PM

]although there is a chap on a Spurs forum I’m on that works for the solicitors he uses, who seems to think they are preparing for the worst, also another that claims the prosecution (ie the Revenue) want to make an example of him

Oh dear, if that is true then the guy obviously doesn’t value his job high enough. He has breached all types of regulations there by posting on a public forum.

This. Very much this.

Although the guy could be a solicitor with the amount of bullshit he’s obviously giving out.

He’s a paralegal, but like I said, I’ve not got much reason to doubt what he has said/written, which to be fair was little more than what I wrote.

Client confidentiality has almost certainly been breached. why would ‘arry want the world to know his legal team are bracing themselves for the worst.

 

Preparing for the worst, shouldn’t you do that in any line of work?

His lawyer should be preparing the case with a watertight defence, not preparing for the worst case scenario - any decent law firm would not allow image to be dented by publically admiting they have no defence and are preparing for the worst case scenario.

LQuick - 25 August 2011 02:44 PM

His lawyer should be preparing the case with a watertight defence, not preparing for the worst case scenario - any decent law firm would not allow image to be dented by publically admiting they have no defence and are preparing for the worst case scenario.

Aren’t those things pretty much one and the same? And who’s to say what they view is the best and worst case scenario?

LQuick - 25 August 2011 02:44 PM

His lawyer should be preparing the case with a watertight defence, not preparing for the worst case scenario - any decent law firm would not allow image to be dented by publically admiting they have no defence and are preparing for the worst case scenario.

Maybe, (and I so hope I’m right here), he has no defence. I can see why they would want no-one to know that though.

If/when he does go down what would he be likely to get?

*say jail, say jail, say jail, say jail*

AViDGooner - 25 August 2011 02:49 PM

LQuick - 25 August 2011 02:44 PM

His lawyer should be preparing the case with a watertight defence, not preparing for the worst case scenario - any decent law firm would not allow image to be dented by publically admiting they have no defence and are preparing for the worst case scenario.

Maybe, (and I so hope I’m right here), he has no defence. I can see why they would want no-one to know that though.

If/when he does go down what would he be likely to get?

*say jail, say jail, say jail, say jail*

I think it’s most likely a hefty fine, but I’m not entirely sure. One thing is for certain though, if he’s found guilty, it will scupper any chance he has of the England job, which I think he’s probably more concerned about.

Sorry, double post.

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 02:51 PM

AViDGooner - 25 August 2011 02:49 PM

LQuick - 25 August 2011 02:44 PM

His lawyer should be preparing the case with a watertight defence, not preparing for the worst case scenario - any decent law firm would not allow image to be dented by publically admiting they have no defence and are preparing for the worst case scenario.

Maybe, (and I so hope I’m right here), he has no defence. I can see why they would want no-one to know that though.

If/when he does go down what would he be likely to get?

*say jail, say jail, say jail, say jail*

I

think it’s most likely a hefty fine, but I’m not entirely sure. One thing is for certain though, it will scupper any chance he has of the England job, which I think he’s probably more concerned about.

BOOOOOOOOOOO

We want a

It will be very interesting to see - should he be found guilty - what happens to the media stuff that he does, columns adverts etc and how he would be treated by Spurs, the press and in after match interviews.

I personally think he will constantly deny it all and appeal and appeal and appeal.

AViDGooner - 25 August 2011 02:56 PM

Mortal Wombat - 25 August 2011 02:51 PM

AViDGooner - 25 August 2011 02:49 PM

LQuick - 25 August 2011 02:44 PM

His lawyer should be preparing the case with a watertight defence, not preparing for the worst case scenario - any decent law firm would not allow image to be dented by publically admiting they have no defence and are preparing for the worst case scenario.

Maybe, (and I so hope I’m right here), he has no defence. I can see why they would want no-one to know that though.

If/when he does go down what would he be likely to get?

*say jail, say jail, say jail, say jail*

I

think it’s most likely a hefty fine, but I’m not entirely sure. One thing is for certain though, it will scupper any chance he has of the England job, which I think he’s probably more concerned about.

BOOOOOOOOOOO

We want a

It will be very interesting to see - should he be found guilty - what happens to the media stuff that he does, columns adverts etc and how he would be treated by Spurs, the press and in after match interviews.

I personally think he will constantly deny it all and appeal and appeal and appeal.

I would have thought he’d get dropped from everywhere he’s whored himself to (the Mirror, Nintendo, TalkShit, etc etc), but I’m not sure how Spurs will handle it, after all, it’s got literally fuck all to do with us, Richard, and that’s all I’m concerned about. My personal opinion is that if he’s got no chance of the England job, he’ll more than likely just retire.