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Posted: 06 November 2011 09:39 PM   Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]  
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Barca 1 - Athletic Bilbao 2 at the moment. Horrendous conditions, standing water etc, but Pique just helped the ball in to his own net, via llorente header, and he’s just been subbed - straight away.

this could be a good finish!!! only 1 PROPER defender on the pitch for barca in the form of Abidal (Dani Alves isn’t a defender!)

9 mins to go.

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Just turned over from the NFL in time to see that own goal. Comical stuff but this game should surely have been abandoned? The pitch is unplayable in places.

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Messi, equalised, after another defensive calamity. oh dear. 91st min.

Not sure if i imagined it, but did athletic get a man sent off just then..?

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Dramatic ending to the Gijon/Malaga game and now Barca have put 2 past Betis in quick time.

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Would I be right in saying that Barca have just conceded their first goal at home in the league this season?

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I think so Marc. I’m not watching - got an exam tomorrow morning - anything special?

@rckd - 18 September 2011 10:21 PM

Disappointed to see Real Madrid lose really.  Because Barca will inevitably walk the league, I was hoping it’d stay a two-horse race for as long as possible.

Just thought I’d point this quote out. Seems appropriate (;

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2-2, RSC. Game on.

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Aww. Well that’s disappointing. When a team comes from 2-0 at the Nou Camp, they have the divine right to go on and win!

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Pepe and Coentrao (to a lesser extent) are a fucking disgrace, I’d like to never see their faces again on a football pitch. Santa, can you…?

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

What I’d like to know is why Fabregas & Messi got involved. Fabregas trying to donkey kick Pepe, and Messi acting like he’d been punched at the end when Contrao pushed his head down from behind.

And I really doubt Mourinho tells Pepe to act like that. Can you imagine if they had a falling out, and Pepe told the press that he’d been told to cheat by his manager? If you’re blaming Jose for Pepe’s actions, then surely we have to blame Pep for Sergio’s & Alves’ & Iniesta’s usual theatrics??

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Pepe, shithouse.

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

What I’d like to know is why Fabregas & Messi got involved. Fabregas trying to donkey kick Pepe, and Messi acting like he’d been punched at the end when Contrao pushed his head down from behind.

And I really doubt Mourinho tells Pepe to act like that. Can you imagine if they had a falling out, and Pepe told the press that he’d been told to cheat by his manager? If you’re blaming Jose for Pepe’s actions, then surely we have to blame Pep for Sergio’s & Alves’ & Iniesta’s usual theatrics??

Please don’t try to excuse what we’ve all seen tonight.

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

What I’d like to know is why Fabregas & Messi got involved. Fabregas trying to donkey kick Pepe, and Messi acting like he’d been punched at the end when Contrao pushed his head down from behind.

And I really doubt Mourinho tells Pepe to act like that. Can you imagine if they had a falling out, and Pepe told the press that he’d been told to cheat by his manager? If you’re blaming Jose for Pepe’s actions, then surely we have to blame Pep for Sergio’s & Alves’ & Iniesta’s usual theatrics??

Please don’t try to excuse what we’ve all seen tonight.

I don’t think he is, i think he is merely trying to show that Barca are also cheating pricks when they want to be. Just because they play outstanding football does not mean they can be grade A wankstains also.

Tonight was absolutely nothing in comparison to what went on last season. It really annoys me how people automatically take Barca’s side, if people saw them play on a regular basis, you can see what they can be like at times. Real are admittedly dirtier, but they have to be, they had no other way of getting to Barca.

Another thing that sends me off on one, fucking commentators wanking over Messi and ow he never complains, piss off. This season i have seen him wave cards around, roll around like he has been shot and also have kick outs at players as well. Im not saying he shouldn’t kick out, because he gets enough of it done to him, but fucking hell don’t give it the whole “he never complains or play acts” shit

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I have not seen anyone from Barcelona cynically putting the foot over the hand of a Real player lying down. Or bullying the little guy or trying to stick the finger in the “enemy’s” eye.

I can live with a dive or faking an injury once in a while, that’s common in latin football (though not only). I won’t complain about that to either of the sides, I’m used to it.

Also, it saddens me to see that being dirtier is acceptable if the opponent is better. That’s not what football is about.

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

What I’d like to know is why Fabregas & Messi got involved. Fabregas trying to donkey kick Pepe, and Messi acting like he’d been punched at the end when Contrao pushed his head down from behind.

And I really doubt Mourinho tells Pepe to act like that. Can you imagine if they had a falling out, and Pepe told the press that he’d been told to cheat by his manager? If you’re blaming Jose for Pepe’s actions, then surely we have to blame Pep for Sergio’s & Alves’ & Iniesta’s usual theatrics??

Please don’t try to excuse what we’ve all seen tonight.

How was I excusing it? I’m simply pointing out, as Joe said, that Barca aren’t the saints they’re made out to be. Fabregas kicked out at Pepe near the end when Pepe was stood behind him - yet no one will mention it. Yes, treading on someones hand is absolute disgusting behaviour, and he’s an absolute moron - the referee was a meter in front of him and he was on a yellow.

Pepe is filthy yes, but I don’t recall any of the others doing anything like that. Pepe is the main antagonist time and time again - that doesn’t make Madrid evil. I saw 13 other Madrid players simply get outplayer and accept it.

I sat watching the game with my flat mate, who’s only really into Premier League football, and I was genuinely embarassed I’d convinced him to watch it. I can only imagine that the rest of Spanish football feel the same, seeing as this is meant to be an advert for the countries sport and all..

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^ I see your point. On my behalf I can say I’m not against the whole of R.M., and it’s a shame such an attitude tarnishes the image of the great club Real is (my first club, for which I still care). For example, when Pepe does that horrible thing, you can clearly see on the replays Xabi Alonso reacting dismayed and going to check out Messi, like he was one of his own. He won’t shy out of a harsh tackle but he know where to stop; kudos to him. Such moments show there’s still normality there in all that madness.

However I still see the attempt to try and divert the attention from the fact that tonight Barca came clean (no brutality, no bullying, no cheating - on the contrary, they stopped play when Pepe was doing that terrible injury faking) and Real played more than dirty as excusing it. It’s like saying “this guy is bad, but his victim has a history too” - it comes with the implied justification (“so it was ok/deserved” or “you are free to abuse someone who did things to you”).

Outside this view we agree on all the rest.

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THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WAVING IMAGINARY CARDS AND THERE IS VERY LITTLE WRONG WITH DIVING, IT’S CLEVER PLAY.

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THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WAVING IMAGINARY CARDS AND THERE IS VERY LITTLE WRONG WITH DIVING, IT’S CLEVER PLAY.

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shandy - 19 January 2012 09:20 AM

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WAVING IMAGINARY CARDS AND THERE IS VERY LITTLE WRONG WITH DIVING, IT’S PART OF THE GAME.

fixed, lol

 

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

Erm… Real Madrid don’t beat Barca. Under Mourinho that’s 9 games 1 win and that was in Extra Time. Perhaps people should stop excusing the rough housing tactics as they clearly don’t work. All it has done is take the relationship between the clubs to an all time low.

I remember growing up watching the classico and it was always a joy to watch. They’d both go at it hammer-and- tong and obviously the rivalry was there but now, since Mourinho went to Madrid, it’s become a bitter, horrible affair. There’s only one man responsible for that.

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

Erm… Real Madrid don’t beat Barca. Under Mourinho that’s 9 games 1 win and that was in Extra Time. Perhaps people should stop excusing the rough housing tactics as they clearly don’t work. All it has done is take the relationship between the clubs to an all time low.

I remember growing up watching the classico and it was always a joy to watch. They’d both go at it hammer-and- tong and obviously the rivalry was there but now, since Mourinho went to Madrid, it’s become a bitter, horrible affair. There’s only one man responsible for that.

 

couldn’t agree more. It’s actually not fun to watch anymore. I just get riled up and want to stab pepe in the legs (maybe a bit far) but he’s such a dirty prick it’s ridiculous. Busquets may cheat as well, but on the whole he’s not physically harming other players… I hate both of them, but pepe is a joke of a man. Hope he gets a ban for his nice little stamp on messi’s hand. URGH. wanker.

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I’m really disappointed that Mourinho continues to play Pepe - especially as he’s quite clearly nothing but a liability. You can’t be right in the head to go out physically harming other players - made even more moronic when the referee is 2 meters away, staring right at you. May be a blessing in disguise if he gets a ban - I’m not sure how they can’t after that incident, along with faining injury.

But as for Mourinho ruining football - come on… The football they’ve been playing this year is sublime. They’re averaging 4 goals a game, Ronaldo has 27, Benzema & Higuain have 17 each, they won all six Champions League group games averaging over 3 goals a game, and even though it was Barcelona they started with 3 strikers last night.

And as for the state of the Classico - anyone who watched last years ‘showpieces’ will know how much it has improved this season. I wouldn’t let the actions of one nutcase distort that.

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I’m really disappointed that Mourinho continues to play Pepe - especially as he’s quite clearly nothing but a liability. You can’t be right in the head to go out physically harming other players - made even more moronic when the referee is 2 meters away, staring right at you. May be a blessing in disguise if he gets a ban - I’m not sure how they can’t after that incident, along with faining injury.

But as for Mourinho ruining football - come on… The football they’ve been playing this year is sublime. They’re averaging 4 goals a game, Ronaldo has 27, Benzema & Higuain have 17 each, they won all six Champions League group games averaging over 3 goals a game, and even though it was Barcelona they started with 3 strikers last night.

And as for the state of the Classico - anyone who watched last years ‘showpieces’ will know how much it has improved this season. I wouldn’t let the actions of one nutcase distort that.

After the 5-0, last seasons were a shambles too

While Madrid have undoubtedly done well against everyone else and played scintillating football, the fact remains that when Mourinho’s teams come up against Barca, his teams stop playing football. From Chelsea kicking them off the park and the lies he told about the ref, to the anti-football flukey win when he was manager of Inter (two goals for Inter should have been ruled out for offside and Barca had a goal disallowed that should have stood) it’s always the same fucking story. HE is the common denominator.

Barca are THE team to beat and are probably the most famous team in the world right now and every time he plays them he behaves and his players behave like utter cunts. The classico is the most famous match in world football, any new fan must wonder what the fuss is about.

I can’t wait ‘till he ditches Madrid (Like he did Porto and Chelsea and Inter) so normal service can resume and I can start enjoying the matches again.

I’m fed up of his apologists. He’s a cunt.

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I’m really disappointed that Mourinho continues to play Pepe - especially as he’s quite clearly nothing but a liability. You can’t be right in the head to go out physically harming other players - made even more moronic when the referee is 2 meters away, staring right at you. May be a blessing in disguise if he gets a ban - I’m not sure how they can’t after that incident, along with faining injury.

But as for Mourinho ruining football - come on… The football they’ve been playing this year is sublime. They’re averaging 4 goals a game, Ronaldo has 27, Benzema & Higuain have 17 each, they won all six Champions League group games averaging over 3 goals a game, and even though it was Barcelona they started with 3 strikers last night.

And as for the state of the Classico - anyone who watched last years ‘showpieces’ will know how much it has improved this season. I wouldn’t let the actions of one nutcase distort that.

After the 5-0, last seasons were a shambles too

While Madrid have undoubtedly done well against everyone else and played scintillating football, the fact remains that when Mourinho’s teams come up against Barca, his teams stop playing football. From Chelsea kicking them off the park and the lies he told about the ref, to the flukey win when he was manager of Inter (two goals for Inter should have been ruled out for offside and Barca had a goal disallowed that should have stood) it’s always the same fucking story. HE is the common denominator.

Barca are THE team to beat and are probably the most famous team in the world right now and every time he plays them he behaves and his players behave like utter cunts. The classico is the most famous match in world football, any new fan must wonder what the fuss is about.

I can’t wait ‘till he ditches Madrid (Like he did Porto and Chelsea and Inter) so normal service can resume and I can start enjoying the matches again.

I fed up of his apologists. He’s a cunt.

Clearly neither of our opinions are going to change, but calling the win with Inter flukey kind of ignores that Inter spent over half a game at the Nou Camp down to ten men - and there’s no need to recount how that happened I’m sure.

And I’m sure you watch La Liga, but it’s not like Madrid are the only team to play an - admittedly overly - physical style against them. My brain may be exagerating it but Barca end up playing against 10 men every other week. Teams can’t handle their movement, get pulled all over the park, and get frustrated with the way they keep the ball so well - that’s what happens to absolutely everyone.

These last two Classicos have barely had an eyebrown raising incident between them if you take Pepe out of the equation.


Edit:  And when I said “anyone who watched last years..”, I meant to highlight how disgraceful they were last season compaired to this one.

Edit #2: Also, are you blaming Mourinho for a lucky win? Hardly his fault is it haha

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

What I’d like to know is why Fabregas & Messi got involved. Fabregas trying to donkey kick Pepe, and Messi acting like he’d been punched at the end when Contrao pushed his head down from behind.

And I really doubt Mourinho tells Pepe to act like that. Can you imagine if they had a falling out, and Pepe told the press that he’d been told to cheat by his manager? If you’re blaming Jose for Pepe’s actions, then surely we have to blame Pep for Sergio’s & Alves’ & Iniesta’s usual theatrics??

Have you ever had somebody push their weight down on the back of your head, it’s incredibly jarring on your spine & is really rather jolly painful.

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Edit #2: Also, are you blaming Mourinho for a lucky win? Hardly his fault is it haha

Nah, I’m blaming him for playing anti football.

For three quaters of that tie they had 11 men and they still did the same thing he always does against Barca. Only this time they got lucky with the goals that should have been disallowed and the one Barca had wrongly disallowed.

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Pepe is an absolute shite hawk, yet people still think Busquets is a bigger ‘cheat’  uggghhh Mourihno stop ruining football ya prick

Busquets is a fucking wanker of a man and they are at the same level, Busquets is a lot more sly in his cheating.

I don’t particularly see how Mourinho was ruining or is ruining football, especially with tonights performance. I was the first to admit a couple of months ago that Mourinho sets out dirty at times, but how the hell else can you beat Barca?

What I’d like to know is why Fabregas & Messi got involved. Fabregas trying to donkey kick Pepe, and Messi acting like he’d been punched at the end when Contrao pushed his head down from behind.

And I really doubt Mourinho tells Pepe to act like that. Can you imagine if they had a falling out, and Pepe told the press that he’d been told to cheat by his manager? If you’re blaming Jose for Pepe’s actions, then surely we have to blame Pep for Sergio’s & Alves’ & Iniesta’s usual theatrics??

Have you ever had somebody push their weight down on the back of your head, it’s incredibly jarring on your spine & is really rather jolly painful.

Fair point, but he went down holding his face and acting like he had been shot, i’m sure it was a little sore, but jesus christ. I think a lot of peopel don’t pick up on it because it’s the “never complain” Lionel Messi

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He doesn’t hold his face though, he holds the side of his head.

I’m telling you now, I’ve had a similar thing happen to me in the past. Whilst playing rugby, a kid pushed my head down as I got up from a ruck, it felt like a shockwave had been sent down my spine & I had a headache & dizziness for a good while afterwards. Any kind of jarring head movement is incredibly disorientating to the senses, especially when you’re not expecting it. It’s incredibly dangerous & isn’t far from a rabbit punch (or to be more crude, a donkey punch), which can be lethal, and is banned in boxing, MMA & other combat sports.

In my eyes, Messi hasn’t overreacted in that situation at all.

Little side note, I’ve also had a player stamp on my hand. His studs tore the flesh off the top of my hand though, I could see the muscle, bones & tendons in my hand. I’ve spoken about in in the injury thread before. It was horrendous.

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Even so, would it hurt the side of your head? or where he was holding? surely the rolling from side to side would make things a little worse? I son’t particularly think he pushed his head down “THAT” hard, he put force behind it, but not massive force.

The reason i question Messi on this is i have also had this done to me. It does indeed hurt, but it felt worse on the back of my neck rather that anything else.

Maybe it;s just picking at things.

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JoeSnee - 19 January 2012 07:19 PM

Even so, would it hurt the side of your head? or where he was holding? surely the rolling from side to side would make things a little worse? I son’t particularly think he pushed his head down “THAT” hard, he put force behind it, but not massive force.

The reason i question Messi on this is i have also had this done to me. It does indeed hurt, but it felt worse on the back of my neck rather that anything else.

Maybe it;s just picking at things.

If you hurt somewhere in your body you don’t necessarily hold the exact place that is affected

I done my neck/shoulder in and it gets uncomfortable I ‘hug’ my bicep (if that makes sense).

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Lad’s i know where your coming from, i really really do. I am not questioning that it hurts a bit, i’m not questioning the ability of the player. All i am saying is that i hate the way commentators and fans constantly try to convince fans that Messi doesn’t complain, or he doesn’t have a dramatic side or a dirty side. It isn’t as dramatic as Ronaldo or a lot of other players, but he DOES do it.

That’s not taking away from his ability of him, he is still the undoubted best around.

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Maybe I should have said that that prick Mourinho is ruining football for me, the cunt that he is. Love Barca, but I can’t watch the Claisco’s (well can’t watch after Barca take the lead and control the game) because Mourinho’s Madrid resort to what they did last night every time. He has ruined the biggest game in club football and the sooner he fucks off the better.

The difference between Pepe and Busquets, besides a gulf in ability, is gamesmanship. Pepe looks to physically harm where as Busquets milks it for a hopeful booking. Neither in the true spirit of the game but I know which I’d prefer happen to me. Pepe needs a good hard GAA shoulder and to stop acting the fucking bollock.

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Dance Magic Dance, you sir are a LEGEND.

Fact of the matter is, Mourinho is stumped when facing Guardiola. He only made it through for the reasons DMD pointed out with Inter in the 09/10 CL, refereeing decisions.

Mourinho makes his squad too tensed, too up for it, the only time Real have played well in the clasicos was the Super Cup (they still lost on aggregate 5-4 but the games were a joy to watch.

Messi’s assist was sublime but that was his worst clasico under Pep, his off the ball movement is worrylingly non-existant, a powerwalk.

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StMirrenBarca - 19 January 2012 11:23 PM

Dance Magic Dance, you sir are a LEGEND.

Fact of the matter is, Mourinho is stumped when facing Guardiola. He only made it through for the reasons DMD pointed out with Inter in the 09/10 CL, refereeing decisions.

Mourinho makes his squad too tensed, too up for it, the only time Real have played well in the clasicos was the Super Cup (they still lost on aggregate 5-4 but the games were a joy to watch.

Messi’s assist was sublime but that was his worst clasico under Pep, his off the ball movement is worrylingly non-existant, a powerwalk.

I thought he created alot of space for Alexi, who was excellent, to run into. By his standards not the usual all round performance, same against Betis too, I thought.

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Clearly - and surely you can admit - you have a biased opinion here. But what was your reason for never wanting Coentrao on a football pitch again? Hes a top top player - better all round game than Marcelo in my opinion.

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Gaston Tauments bicycle - 19 January 2012 11:14 PM

Maybe I should have said that that prick Mourinho is ruining football for me, the cunt that he is. Love Barca, but I can’t watch the Claisco’s (well can’t watch after Barca take the lead and control the game) because Mourinho’s Madrid resort to what they did last night every time. He has ruined the biggest game in club football and the sooner he fucks off the better.

The difference between Pepe and Busquets, besides a gulf in ability, is gamesmanship. Pepe looks to physically harm where as Busquets milks it for a hopeful booking. Neither in the true spirit of the game but I know which I’d prefer happen to me. Pepe needs a good hard GAA shoulder and to stop acting the fucking bollock.

There are very few GAA footballers who i would put up against Pepe. A lot of GAA players love to think they are hard, drinking a load of pints at the weekend goes to their head, but that’s for another time/

When Inter beat Barca in the Champions League i don’t think it was completely down to refereeing decisions, Mourinho set up to go through and it worked. Guardiola got his tactic wrong in that clash IMO.

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I have come to this a bit late, prompted by the GIF thread.

Messi makes a meal of that ‘push’ to the head IMO. we can argue all day about the symantics of how hard, etc but my initial reaction from the GIF was ‘that’s not what I want from the best player in the world”.

I think it’s DMD that says this too, the recent Barca v Real games are some of the worst adverts for the game. BOTH sides contribute to this feast of overacting, petty spats and stupidity. Mourinho is an incendiary element to the whole thing, but again both sides are capable of acting like 7 year old girls.

If you want to watch how a feud should be settled on a football pitch check out the Battle of Santiago as advertised on the Ramble

Not pretty, but I’d rather watch that than the histrionics of the current Classico match ups.

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JoeSnee - 20 January 2012 12:14 AM
Gaston Tauments bicycle - 19 January 2012 11:14 PM

Maybe I should have said that that prick Mourinho is ruining football for me, the cunt that he is. Love Barca, but I can’t watch the Claisco’s (well can’t watch after Barca take the lead and control the game) because Mourinho’s Madrid resort to what they did last night every time. He has ruined the biggest game in club football and the sooner he fucks off the better.

The difference between Pepe and Busquets, besides a gulf in ability, is gamesmanship. Pepe looks to physically harm where as Busquets milks it for a hopeful booking. Neither in the true spirit of the game but I know which I’d prefer happen to me. Pepe needs a good hard GAA shoulder and to stop acting the fucking bollock.

There are very few GAA footballers who i would put up against Pepe. A lot of GAA players love to think they are hard, drinking a load of pints at the weekend goes to their head, but that’s for another time/

When Inter beat Barca in the Champions League i don’t think it was completely down to refereeing decisions, Mourinho set up to go through and it worked. Guardiola got his tactic wrong in that clash IMO.

 

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