Ricky’s pretty smart eh

He spelt ‘generalise’ with a ‘z’ on the first line.

Not sure whether to read on.

Can’t stand the man. Insufferable.

how so? and thats how amurikah spells it

Ricky Gervais is a stupid cunt!

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

RBK1917 - 20 February 2012 09:48 AM

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny   (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

Yeah, I mean if you ignore the fact hes written 2 of the of the best comedies ever produced then he’s pretty average.

Vote Eboue - 20 February 2012 09:59 AM

RBK1917 - 20 February 2012 09:48 AM

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny   (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

Yeah, I mean if you ignore the fact hes written 2 of the of the best comedies ever produced then he’s pretty average.

 

 

One of the best.

If he was a musician, no one would have a problem with slating him for living off past glories and being a one trick pony. He’s essentially the Oasis of comedy… He keeps himself in the news by being controversial but his actual output is dated and lacks relevance.

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 11:49 AM

Vote Eboue - 20 February 2012 09:59 AM

RBK1917 - 20 February 2012 09:48 AM

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny   (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

Yeah, I mean if you ignore the fact hes written 2 of the of the best comedies ever produced then he’s pretty average.

 

 

One of the best.

If he was a musician, no one would have a problem with slating him for living off past glories and being a one trick pony. He’s essentially the Oasis of comedy… He keeps himself in the news by being controversial but his actual output is dated and lacks relevance.

 

How exactly is he living off past glories? It’s not like he just keeps making new episodes of the The Office because none of his new stuff is successful, pretty much everything he does is successful. For instance in the past 2-3 years, he’s presented award shows successfully, he’s still a very successful stand-up both in Britain and America, he’s done An Idiot Abroad, which he didn’t star in but him and Stephen Merchant produced it, which was also a success. Then there’s the podcasts with Karl Pilkington, which again have been successful, so much so that HBO made it into a TV series, he’s written books that have sold well, and he’s also acted in films and writtten/produced a couple. For anyone who thinks Ricky Gervais can only do things for shock value you should really watch Cemetery Junction, it’s very good film and is very well written, but unlike pretty much everything else him and Merchant have done, it’s not a comedy, and it shows they can do more serious things well.

Roy Keane’s Mental Face - 20 February 2012 12:51 PM

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 11:49 AM

Vote Eboue - 20 February 2012 09:59 AM

RBK1917 - 20 February 2012 09:48 AM

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny   (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

Yeah, I mean if you ignore the fact hes written 2 of the of the best comedies ever produced then he’s pretty average.

 

 

One of the best.

If he was a musician, no one would have a problem with slating him for living off past glories and being a one trick pony. He’s essentially the Oasis of comedy… He keeps himself in the news by being controversial but his actual output is dated and lacks relevance.

 

How exactly is he living off past glories? It’s not like he just keeps making new episodes of the The Office because none of his new stuff is successful, pretty much everything he does is successful. For instance in the past 2-3 years, he’s presented award shows successfully, he’s still a very successful stand-up both in Britain and America, he’s done An Idiot Abroad, which he didn’t star in but him and Stephen Merchant produced it, which was also a success. Then there’s the podcasts with Karl Pilkington, which again have been successful, so much so that HBO made it into a TV series, he’s written books that have sold well, and he’s also acted in films and writtten/produced a couple. For anyone who thinks Ricky Gervais can only do things for shock value you should really watch Cemetery Junction, it’s very good film and is very well written, but unlike pretty much everything else him and Merchant have done, it’s not a comedy, and it shows they can do more serious things well.

Do you really think everything he has created since The Office would, if released in isolation, be nearly as successful as they were without The Office preceeding them? Invention of Lying is one of the worst films ever made but, because it had Gervais in it, it was reasonably successful. The same goes for Cemetary Junction - which is utter tripe. All of his stand up is mediocre and that program he released with Willow in, was just dreadful. If I had pitched that show to the BBC, would they have backed me? Would they fuck but, seeing as Gervais was in it, the Beeb lapped it up.

Idiot Abroad is successful because of Karl Pilkington. He could produce it and have any other person on the screen and it wouldn’t work. Giving him credit for that is like giving Spielberg credit for Super 8.

Anyway, successful doesn’t = good.

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 01:49 PM

Roy Keane’s Mental Face - 20 February 2012 12:51 PM

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 11:49 AM

Vote Eboue - 20 February 2012 09:59 AM

RBK1917 - 20 February 2012 09:48 AM

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny   (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

Yeah, I mean if you ignore the fact hes written 2 of the of the best comedies ever produced then he’s pretty average.

 

 

One of the best.

If he was a musician, no one would have a problem with slating him for living off past glories and being a one trick pony. He’s essentially the Oasis of comedy… He keeps himself in the news by being controversial but his actual output is dated and lacks relevance.

 

How exactly is he living off past glories? It’s not like he just keeps making new episodes of the The Office because none of his new stuff is successful, pretty much everything he does is successful. For instance in the past 2-3 years, he’s presented award shows successfully, he’s still a very successful stand-up both in Britain and America, he’s done An Idiot Abroad, which he didn’t star in but him and Stephen Merchant produced it, which was also a success. Then there’s the podcasts with Karl Pilkington, which again have been successful, so much so that HBO made it into a TV series, he’s written books that have sold well, and he’s also acted in films and writtten/produced a couple. For anyone who thinks Ricky Gervais can only do things for shock value you should really watch Cemetery Junction, it’s very good film and is very well written, but unlike pretty much everything else him and Merchant have done, it’s not a comedy, and it shows they can do more serious things well.

Do you really think everything he has created since The Office would, if released in isolation, be nearly as successful as they were without The Office preceeding them? Invention of Lying is one of the worst films ever made but, because it had Gervais in it, it was reasonably successful. The same goes for Cemetary Junction - which is utter tripe. All of his stand up is mediocre and that program he released with Willow in, was just dreadful. If I had pitched that show to the BBC, would they have backed me? Would they fuck but, seeing as Gervais was in it, the Beeb lapped it up.

Idiot Abroad is successful because of Karl Pilkington. He could produce it and have any other person on the screen and it wouldn’t work. Giving him credit for that is like giving Spielberg credit for Super 8.

Anyway, successful doesn’t = good.

Yes I agree, successful doesn’t = good, however your opinion doesn’t = everyone elses opinion. You describe his stand-up as mediocre like it’s a fact, but loads of people think it’s brilliant and he sells tonnes of tickets and DVD’s every year for stand-up. I also think Cemetery Junction was pretty good, although I agree the Invention of Lying was pretty average. I think Life’s Too Short (I assume that’s what you’re talking about when you mention Willow) was decent, not as good as Extras or The Office but it was better than a fair bunch of recent British sitcoms.

Roy Keane’s Mental Face - 20 February 2012 02:03 PM

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 01:49 PM

Roy Keane’s Mental Face - 20 February 2012 12:51 PM

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 11:49 AM

Vote Eboue - 20 February 2012 09:59 AM

RBK1917 - 20 February 2012 09:48 AM

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny   (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

Yeah, I mean if you ignore the fact hes written 2 of the of the best comedies ever produced then he’s pretty average.

 

 

One of the best.

If he was a musician, no one would have a problem with slating him for living off past glories and being a one trick pony. He’s essentially the Oasis of comedy… He keeps himself in the news by being controversial but his actual output is dated and lacks relevance.

 

How exactly is he living off past glories? It’s not like he just keeps making new episodes of the The Office because none of his new stuff is successful, pretty much everything he does is successful. For instance in the past 2-3 years, he’s presented award shows successfully, he’s still a very successful stand-up both in Britain and America, he’s done An Idiot Abroad, which he didn’t star in but him and Stephen Merchant produced it, which was also a success. Then there’s the podcasts with Karl Pilkington, which again have been successful, so much so that HBO made it into a TV series, he’s written books that have sold well, and he’s also acted in films and writtten/produced a couple. For anyone who thinks Ricky Gervais can only do things for shock value you should really watch Cemetery Junction, it’s very good film and is very well written, but unlike pretty much everything else him and Merchant have done, it’s not a comedy, and it shows they can do more serious things well.

Do you really think everything he has created since The Office would, if released in isolation, be nearly as successful as they were without The Office preceeding them? Invention of Lying is one of the worst films ever made but, because it had Gervais in it, it was reasonably successful. The same goes for Cemetary Junction - which is utter tripe. All of his stand up is mediocre and that program he released with Willow in, was just dreadful. If I had pitched that show to the BBC, would they have backed me? Would they fuck but, seeing as Gervais was in it, the Beeb lapped it up.

Idiot Abroad is successful because of Karl Pilkington. He could produce it and have any other person on the screen and it wouldn’t work. Giving him credit for that is like giving Spielberg credit for Super 8.

Anyway, successful doesn’t = good.

Yes I agree, successful doesn’t = good, however your opinion doesn’t = everyone elses opinion. You describe his stand-up as mediocre like it’s a fact, but loads of people think it’s brilliant and he sells tonnes of tickets and DVD’s every year for stand-up. I also think Cemetery Junction was pretty good, although I agree the Invention of Lying was pretty average. I think Life’s Too Short (I assume that’s what you’re talking about when you mention Willow) was decent, not as good as Extras or The Office but it was better than a fair bunch of recent British sitcoms.

I offered my opinion at the start and you said it was incorrect. I explained my opinion and now you’re saying that I’m acting like my opinion is fact. It is my opinion that he is a one trick pony, it is my opinion that the Invention of Lying is one of the worst films ever, it is my opinion that Cemetery Junction is shit, it is my opinion that Life’s too Short is shit, it is my opinion that his stand up is mediocre at best.

I’m not going to prefix every sentence I write with ‘In my fucking opinion’.

@rckd - 19 February 2012 08:47 PM

He spelt ‘generalise’ with a ‘z’ on the first line.

Not sure whether to read on.

I imagine a sub-ed changed that for the sake of convention and style.

Gervais reminds me of Irish comedian Tommy Tiernan, when he hasn’t been heard of for a while he comes out with some controversial shit just to be talked about! They should both go and fuck each other!

Jack Warner - 20 February 2012 02:58 PM

Gervais reminds me of Irish comedian Tommy Tiernan, when he hasn’t been heard of for a while he comes out with some controversial shit just to be talked about! They should both go and fuck each other!

WTF???

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 02:24 PM

I offered my opinion at the start and you said it was incorrect. I explained my opinion and now you’re saying that I’m acting like my opinion is fact. It is my opinion that he is a one trick pony, it is my opinion that the Invention of Lying is one of the worst films ever, it is my opinion that Cemetery Junction is shit, it is my opinion that Life’s too Short is shit, it is my opinion that his stand up is mediocre at best.

I’m not going to prefix every sentence I write with ‘In my fucking opinion’.

I’m jealous of you if The Invention Of Lying is one of the worst film’s ever and the worst film you’ve ever seen.  Christ knows I could show you a whole library of stuff a whole lot worse (sadly I’ve probably worked on some of them haha).  Either that or you were being deliberately hyperbolic to prove your point.

On a completely separate point I find it funny how many people miss the sarcasm in showing off all his awards.

Cemetery Junction is boss!

Greavsie’s Gaff - 20 February 2012 03:34 PM

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 02:24 PM

I offered my opinion at the start and you said it was incorrect. I explained my opinion and now you’re saying that I’m acting like my opinion is fact. It is my opinion that he is a one trick pony, it is my opinion that the Invention of Lying is one of the worst films ever, it is my opinion that Cemetery Junction is shit, it is my opinion that Life’s too Short is shit, it is my opinion that his stand up is mediocre at best.

I’m not going to prefix every sentence I write with ‘In my fucking opinion’.

I’m jealous of you if The Invention Of Lying is one of the worst film’s ever and the worst film you’ve ever seen.  Christ knows I could show you a whole library of stuff a whole lot worse (sadly I’ve probably worked on some of them haha).  Either that or you were being deliberately hyperbolic to prove your point.

On a completely separate point I find it funny how many people miss the sarcasm in showing off all his awards.

Ha, yeah probably a bit of Hyperbole from me - Although it is utterly ridiculous. In one of the first scenes, he’s takes a girl out for a date and she answers the door apologising for being late as she was masturbating. It completely confuses, throughout the whole film, the difference between lying and declaring every last little though in your head or private action you do. It’s pathetic. It’s meant to be a big social comment and some profound film about God and religion and society but, to be honest, it’s just an abortion of a movie.

You think you’ve worked on some shit films - Check out the trailers for these bad boys that I’ve worked on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl_DokKlNbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BS_q3TOZYM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tKycPLM0po

And this abomination http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUFVMwf3f3Q

His stand up is better than his shows IMO.

Warper - 20 February 2012 03:21 PM

Jack Warner - 20 February 2012 02:58 PM

Gervais reminds me of Irish comedian Tommy Tiernan, when he hasn’t been heard of for a while he comes out with some controversial shit just to be talked about! They should both go and fuck each other!

WTF???

There both cocks!

Jack Warner - 20 February 2012 07:41 PM

Warper - 20 February 2012 03:21 PM

Jack Warner - 20 February 2012 02:58 PM

Gervais reminds me of Irish comedian Tommy Tiernan, when he hasn’t been heard of for a while he comes out with some controversial shit just to be talked about! They should both go and fuck each other!

WTF???

There both cocks!

Tommy Tiernan’s funnier then Gervais and his controversial shit is much worse.

José and his Amazing Technicolor Overcoat - 20 February 2012 07:51 PM

Jack Warner - 20 February 2012 07:41 PM

Warper - 20 February 2012 03:21 PM

Jack Warner - 20 February 2012 02:58 PM

Gervais reminds me of Irish comedian Tommy Tiernan, when he hasn’t been heard of for a while he comes out with some controversial shit just to be talked about! They should both go and fuck each other!

WTF???

There both cocks!

Tommy Tiernan’s funnier then Gervais and his controversial shit is much worse.

No and yes to that!

Vote Eboue - 20 February 2012 09:59 AM

RBK1917 - 20 February 2012 09:48 AM

Hypocrite, arrogant, unfunny   (after The Office and Extras). Amazed how he without irony goes from slating celebrity culture to being a celebrity cameo alongside his chum Johnny Depp, conveniently showing off all his awards. In a show which basically boils down to him putting a dwarf in a toilet and a bin, oh no sorry its a satirical take on how society deals with disability. Or how he’s a total one trick pony. Or how he’s a total bully.  Etc, etc.

Yeah, I mean if you ignore the fact hes written 2 of the of the best comedies ever produced then he’s pretty average.

Well, what do you think of his output after The Office and Extras then? While you’re trying to satirically take what I wrote and write it slightly differently phrased, you must surely agree with me that The invention of Lying, this years Golden Globes (where the trailblazer made fun of Elton John for being gay and Madonna for not being a virgin - maverick) and Life’s Too Short is average at best? If you don’t agree, that’s obviously fine - subjective and all that - but the point still stands.

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 06:07 PM

Greavsie’s Gaff - 20 February 2012 03:34 PM

Dance Magic Dance - 20 February 2012 02:24 PM

I offered my opinion at the start and you said it was incorrect. I explained my opinion and now you’re saying that I’m acting like my opinion is fact. It is my opinion that he is a one trick pony, it is my opinion that the Invention of Lying is one of the worst films ever, it is my opinion that Cemetery Junction is shit, it is my opinion that Life’s too Short is shit, it is my opinion that his stand up is mediocre at best.

I’m not going to prefix every sentence I write with ‘In my fucking opinion’.

I’m jealous of you if The Invention Of Lying is one of the worst film’s ever and the worst film you’ve ever seen.  Christ knows I could show you a whole library of stuff a whole lot worse (sadly I’ve probably worked on some of them haha).  Either that or you were being deliberately hyperbolic to prove your point.

On a completely separate point I find it funny how many people miss the sarcasm in showing off all his awards.

Ha, yeah probably a bit of Hyperbole from me - Although it is utterly ridiculous. In one of the first scenes, he’s takes a girl out for a date and she answers the door apologising for being late as she was masturbating. It completely confuses, throughout the whole film, the difference between lying and declaring every last little though in your head or private action you do. It’s pathetic. It’s meant to be a big social comment and some profound film about God and religion and society but, to be honest, it’s just an abortion of a movie.

You think you’ve worked on some shit films - Check out the trailers for these bad boys that I’ve worked on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl_DokKlNbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BS_q3TOZYM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tKycPLM0po

And this abomination http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUFVMwf3f3Q

Still better than Gervais, mate.

kieho - 20 February 2012 02:30 PM

@rckd - 19 February 2012 08:47 PM

He spelt ‘generalise’ with a ‘z’ on the first line.

Not sure whether to read on.

I imagine a sub-ed changed that for the sake of convention and style.

Yeah I was just dicking about.

I don’t fully understand Gervais’s Americophilia though.  It seems largely for the sake of brown-nosing those with money.

There is plenty of proof that Gervais is living on his reputation.  Some of the stuff he does is simply not, in and of itself, funny at all.  Things like his cameos in the American Office, his awards speeches and even his recent stand-ups rely on Gervais as a person and wouldn’t be considered noteworthy or reputable if delivered by basically any other person.

Of course, he has also created some of the best series - and single moments - in the history of comedy.  So I’d consider him hit and miss, and he can certainly deliver a strong hit.  But I also find him obnoxious.

Having seen every episode of both the US and British office and watch a hell of a lot of both British and american comedy (probably a larger quantity of american as 24 eps a series generally) I can confirm that The US office is funnier than the British office- Steve Carrel played a different character to david brent, a more likeable and less pitiful one. However the office to me is more than a comedy it is a drama above all else, whereas the US one is not. This can be seen in other shows- US comedy I enjoy a lot: US office, Community, parks and recreation (every character is a gem), Archer, 30 rock, arrested development, Friends, Frasier, its always sunny in philladelphia, modern family, my name is earl, scrubs, how i met your mother,  raising hope, the simpsons, family guy (whilst a lot of it is not funny there is usually 3 jokes an episode which make me laugh a lot).
British comedy is generally more realistic and relateable but I personally, for laughs prefer American, btw I am english.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/ricky-gervais-lifes-too-short_b_1281883.html

Perfectly sums up how I feel. Succint, well written and brutally accurate.

RBK1917 - 21 February 2012 12:48 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/ricky-gervais-lifes-too-short_b_1281883.html

Perfectly sums up how I feel. Succint, well written and brutally accurate.

I find it interesting how the person that wrote this article (and some people in this thread for that matter) knowingly acknowledge that Stephen Merchant is Gervais’ writing partner, but they never criticise Merchant, it’s only gervais that gets criticism for the shows not being funny. It’s almost as if people are just picking on him because they don’t like his personality, but they don’t mind Stephen Merchant so they leave him alone.

And as for Life’s Too Short, the person that wrote the article got a few things completely wrong, for instance they were never trying to gain sympathy for Warwick Davis’ character for being short, he is pretty much always intended to be the butt of the joke. Also Warwick Davis is never forced or bullied into doing anything, he’s a co-creator and executive producer on the show, he has as much input as Gervais and Merchant.

Roy Keane’s Mental Face - 21 February 2012 01:41 AM

RBK1917 - 21 February 2012 12:48 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/ricky-gervais-lifes-too-short_b_1281883.html

Perfectly sums up how I feel. Succint, well written and brutally accurate.

I find it interesting how the person that wrote this article (and some people in this thread for that matter) knowingly acknowledge that Stephen Merchant is Gervais’ writing partner, but they never criticise Merchant, it’s only gervais that gets criticism for the shows not being funny. It’s almost as if people are just picking on him because they don’t like his personality, but they don’t mind Stephen Merchant so they leave him alone.

And as for Life’s Too Short, the person that wrote the article got a few things completely wrong, for instance they were never trying to gain sympathy for Warwick Davis’ character for being short, he is pretty much always intended to be the butt of the joke. Also Warwick Davis is never forced or bullied into doing anything, he’s a co-creator and executive producer on the show, he has as much input as Gervais and Merchant.

That’s true, but I think the point was that the writing behind Davis’ character was just woeful. Which I agree with. A lot of it’s just David Brent except look at him because he’s small and stuff and falls out of his car and he’s small.

I have come to the conclusion that anyone the British can’t stand or think is a giant cunt, Americans suddenly love. Piers Morgan anyone?

As you say, Merchant is his writing partner, and should be on the receiving end of the same criticism when it comes to LTS. I dont think its because people dont mind him, I just think it’s because he’s not so prolific and in your face as Gervais. I’ve been die-hard fans of both for a long time, but I’m just not anymore. I have something against him as well, but not as much as I’ve against Gervais. My reasons for disliking Merchant are more petty, though, and have all to do with how he acted in the early XFM shows. He comes across as that kid you knew in school, who was nice when there were just the two of you, but turned into a sneering lickspittle when the alpha male bully (Gervais) came along.

I’m a huge Gervais fan.

I found a dwarf falling out of a 4x4 funny.  There, I said it.

I just can’t be arsed with analysing every comedy I watch to decide whether I SHOULD find it funny.  I either do or I don’t.  It doesn’t make me more or less inteligent than someone else and there is no right or wrong.

I’ve found that the same people who criticise Gervais for such “cheap” jokes as a dwarf falling out of a car or not reaching a doorbell, often don’t think twice before proclaiming how great series Like Fawlty Towers were, despite that series essentially boiling down to making fun of a Spanish waiter and some Germans (which I also found funny btw). 

I think peoples perception of Gervais’ comedy is skewed by the fact that they are perhaps over exposed to the man himself.

AUFCrick - 21 February 2012 01:51 PM

I’m a huge Gervais fan.

I found a dwarf falling out of a 4x4 funny.  There, I said it.

I just can’t be arsed with analysing every comedy I watch to decide whether I SHOULD find it funny.  I either do or I don’t.  It doesn’t make me more or less inteligent than someone else and there is no right or wrong.

I’ve found that the same people who criticise Gervais for such “cheap” jokes as a dwarf falling out of a car or not reaching a doorbell, often don’t think twice before proclaiming how great series Like Fawlty Towers were, despite that series essentially boiling down to making fun of a Spanish waiter and some Germans (which I also found funny btw). 

I think peoples perception of Gervais’ comedy is skewed by the fact that they are perhaps over exposed to the man himself.

 

There’s a difference between still finding ‘old’ comedy funny and creating comedy that belongs in that era now. You do see that don’t you?

TheStudpidAmerican - 21 February 2012 04:19 AM

I have come to the conclusion that anyone the British can’t stand or think is a giant cunt, Americans suddenly love. Piers Morgan anyone?

I’m sure most Americans don’t love Piers Morgan. Its the equivalent of a man throwing a smelly, scrappy and bitey dog into your house. You want to get rid of it, but you feel bad for the next poor sod who has to deal with it.

Dance Magic Dance - 21 February 2012 03:02 PM

AUFCrick - 21 February 2012 01:51 PM

I’m a huge Gervais fan.

I found a dwarf falling out of a 4x4 funny.  There, I said it.

I just can’t be arsed with analysing every comedy I watch to decide whether I SHOULD find it funny.  I either do or I don’t.  It doesn’t make me more or less inteligent than someone else and there is no right or wrong.

I’ve found that the same people who criticise Gervais for such “cheap” jokes as a dwarf falling out of a car or not reaching a doorbell, often don’t think twice before proclaiming how great series Like Fawlty Towers were, despite that series essentially boiling down to making fun of a Spanish waiter and some Germans (which I also found funny btw). 

I think peoples perception of Gervais’ comedy is skewed by the fact that they are perhaps over exposed to the man himself.

 

There’s a difference between still finding ‘old’ comedy funny and creating comedy that belongs in that era now. You do see that don’t you?

I see it, but I don’t necessarily agree.  If you find it funny then it’s still funny.  It doesn’t matter what ‘era’ it belongs in.  I find some ‘old’ comedies funny, even though I’m watching now.  I’ve recently started watching Will Hay films for the first time and I find them funny, not because I recognise that they used to be funny, but because they are funny. 

Like I’ve said before, it’s completely subjective.  I hate Roy Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson but plenty of people queue to watch them.

Why do you hate Roy Brown and Jim Davidson?

I was watching the global edition of The Daily Show last night, Ricky Gervais was on, just using his old material from the Animals stand up show. He’s not at the level of Peter Kay for lack of originality, but he’s trying his best.

Traction engine feet - 21 February 2012 03:08 PM

TheStudpidAmerican - 21 February 2012 04:19 AM

I have come to the conclusion that anyone the British can’t stand or think is a giant cunt, Americans suddenly love. Piers Morgan anyone?

I’m sure most Americans don’t love Piers Morgan. Its the equivalent of a man throwing a smelly, scrappy and bitey dog into your house. You want to get rid of it, but you feel bad for the next poor sod who has to deal with it.

Yes. At least I would hope most of us don’t care for him. At the very least I know most all football fans here in the states loathe Piers Morgan.

RBK1917 - 21 February 2012 03:59 PM

Why do you hate Roy Brown and Jim Davidson?

I find them both offensive. 

I think some comedians (Carr, Gervais) may sound just as offensive, but the whole point of the act is that you shouldn’t find it funny but somehow they twist it so that you do.  That’s why you get the nervous laughter sometimes.

I get an uneasy feeling that Brown and Davidson truly believe what they are saying. 

AUFCrick - 21 February 2012 04:58 PM

RBK1917 - 21 February 2012 03:59 PM

Why do you hate Roy Brown and Jim Davidson?

I find them both offensive. 

I think some comedians (Carr, Gervais) may sound just as offensive, but the whole point of the act is that you shouldn’t find it funny but somehow they twist it so that you do.  That’s why you get the nervous laughter sometimes.

I get an uneasy feeling that Brown and Davidson truly believe what they are saying. 

Ricky Gervais genuinely believes that mong isn’t offensive.

I don’t see where you make the distinction.

Dance Magic Dance - 21 February 2012 05:04 PM

AUFCrick - 21 February 2012 04:58 PM

RBK1917 - 21 February 2012 03:59 PM

Why do you hate Roy Brown and Jim Davidson?

I find them both offensive. 

I think some comedians (Carr, Gervais) may sound just as offensive, but the whole point of the act is that you shouldn’t find it funny but somehow they twist it so that you do.  That’s why you get the nervous laughter sometimes.

I get an uneasy feeling that Brown and Davidson truly believe what they are saying. 

Ricky Gervais genuinely believes that mong isn’t offensive.

I don’t see where you make the distinction.

Don’t get me wrong, Gervais sails very close to the wind - sometimes a bit too close for my liking.  However, others routinely cross the line a lot more.  I think that the language Gervais uses is usually part of the joke, whereas with the likes of Davidson / Brown it is ‘the’ joke and I don’t find that funny.